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Post by Admin on Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:40 pm

Are any of you Lovely Lot heating your Systems over Winter Question And IF so .... to what degrees C Question

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Post by DaveB on Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:18 am

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As you know I have always heated in the past, however last year my boiler broke down and was forced to give them a winter of min 6.5 degs . As there were no problems last spring. I have decided to do this again. Fortunatly I now have a new boiler so it will be in a more controlled manner and not for so long. It will be interest to see what temp the pond will drop to, bearing in mind that the boiler is fitted with a automatic frost stat which will cut in once the shed drops to 5 degs C.

I would also be interested in what peoples feeding programme will be as we approach winter and onwards. Do you change the diet ie wheatgerm, Garlic etc and at what temps do you stop feeding altogether

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Post by Admin on Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:24 am

If my `Elecro` permits I will allow mine to drop down to 4C BUT very gradually and for no more than 8 weeks if possible.

I don`t use Wheatgerm personally but will switch to Pro-Bites `Winter Care` IF the new distributor will still ship it >

http://www.probites.co.uk/probites-winter-care.html

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Post by DaveB on Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:12 am

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I used to use the probites supplied by Duncan Griffins ( seasonal) is this the same product? Shame about the price though. Let me know if it is still available.

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Post by Admin on Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:58 am

DaveB wrote:Mio

I used to use the probites supplied by Duncan Griffins ( seasonal) is this the same product? Shame about the price though. Let me know if it is still available.

best REgards Dave

It is the very same Product Dave but Peter has ceased distributing it .... Might be worth calling him to ask who the new distributor will be ?

Not Cheap I know but of Superior Quality Very Happy

How much are you Feeding per Week ?

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Post by DaveB on Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:09 am

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Never measured for ages. However 3kg would probably last me a couple of months approaching winter so would work out about £5.00 per week. So in those terms not too bad. I noticed on the link you added there are a number of stockists you could try these

http://www.probites.co.uk/stockists.html

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Post by Admin on Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:17 am

DaveB wrote:Mio

Never measured for ages. However 3kg would probably last me a couple of months approaching winter so would work out about £5.00 per week. So in those terms not too bad. I noticed on the link you added there are a number of stockists you could try these

http://www.probites.co.uk/stockists.html

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Peter was distributing to those Stockists Dave ... I don`t know who will be for the forceable but when my Summer Pellets run out .... or the Temps drop much lower ..... I will switch to the Winter ProBites Product.

Mine are being held at 20C atm...

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Post by DaveB on Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:25 am

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Koi are at 17 deg here in artic region of england. Not using any heat at momnet. I will be covering the pond at the end of september.early I know but due to considerable leaf fall from an overhanging weeping silver birch. I have never had the heart to chop it down as it is such a nice feature.Please let me know if you manage to get any Probites. Is there a further charge for delivery?

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Post by Admin on Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:32 am

DaveB wrote:Mio

Koi are at 17 deg here in artic region of england. Not using any heat at momnet. I will be covering the pond at the end of september.early I know but due to considerable leaf fall from an overhanging weeping silver birch. I have never had the heart to chop it down as it is such a nice feature.Please let me know if you manage to get any Probites. Is there a further charge for delivery?

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Peter never charged me delivery Dave Very Happy whether that was a favour to me I`m unsure ....

You could try ordering from him simply to see if any remains ....

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Post by DaveB on Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:54 pm

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I will give it a go thanks

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Post by Admin on Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:07 pm

DaveB wrote:Mio

I will give it a go thanks

Best regards Dave

Ask him `who` the new Distributor will be when you call or email him Dave Smile

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Post by HAN on Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:58 pm

I won`t be heating over winter in future either, it is a luxury I, like many others can no longer afford.
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Post by DaveB on Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:13 pm

Hi All

My pond is sitting at 16 degs at the moment. I am currently heating with gas. The boiler is on a timer rather than thermostatically comtrolled in the hope of being able to control costs. I have done some tests on the boiler and it uses approximately 2 cubic meter of gas every hour at current settings( radiator thermostst on boiler)This equates to 73p every hour. I have set the timer to come on twice per day Midnight and 08.00 hrs. For 45 min each time at a cost of £1.10 per day. I am hope to maintain this until the end of the year and see what temps I can mainatain at this cost.

In january I will allow temps to fall to 7 Degs C for 8 weeks then slowly raise temperatures again. This is just an idea at the mo and may or may not change depending on weather conditions.

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Post by Admin on Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:21 pm

My Elecro is on all night long now Dave affraid and I have no idea what that costs but it`s maintaining 17-18C atm which I need it to having disconnected the Sand Filter for the re-fit. scratch I have halved the food ration though in a bid to avoid further Spikes.

I suspect the Temps would be more like Alan`s 14C were there no heat in situ at all.

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Post by DaveB on Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:05 pm

What size is your heater and is it on a thermostat or timer? As you say if thermostatically controlled there is no way of knowing exactlly what you are using. You can get clocks which work off 240v and wired in parallel to heater will clock up how long your heater has been running overnight. However I understand if you don,t bother as your wallet has already took a few hits this month. Best Regards dave

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Post by Admin on Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:25 pm

DaveB wrote:What size is your heater and is it on a thermostat or timer? As you say if thermostatically controlled there is no way of knowing exactlly what you are using. You can get clocks which work off 240v and wired in parallel to heater will clock up how long your heater has been running overnight. However I understand if you don,t bother as your wallet has already took a few hits this month. Best Regards dave

True Sweetie affraid

The New Pond Fund has incurred a dent this month.... Shocked

The 3KW Elecro is thermostatically controlled Dave > http://www.1st-direct.com/elecro-electric-heater_details.htm

I can`t run a higher wattage for some reason due to both the 3kw heaters having blown two electrical points to date....


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Post by DaveB on Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:35 pm

A 3 kw heater is your limit on a 13 amp plug, less if you have other equipment running on the same supply.I run a seperate 32 amp supply to pond with its own RCD breaker.( I got htis upgrade in with the Solar Panels)It might be worth upgrading your electrical supply at a future date. Unfortunately if you want to go higher you may need to upgrade cable as well ie A 6kw heater together with other equipmnet would require a 32A RCD & breaker.

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Post by Admin on Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:01 pm

DaveB wrote:A 3 kw heater is your limit on a 13 amp plug, less if you have other equipment running on the same supply.I run a seperate 32 amp supply to pond with its own RCD breaker.( I got htis upgrade in with the Solar Panels)It might be worth upgrading your electrical supply at a future date. Unfortunately if you want to go higher you may need to upgrade cable as well ie A 6kw heater together with other equipmnet would require a 32A RCD & breaker.

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IF the new pond ever comes to fruition Dave Rolling Eyes I will need to upgrade the entire electrical system .. hence the delay trying to accumulate Funds too date.

I melted two separate electrical socket points with both 3 KW heaters which run back to the house ....and the pump/skimmer etc is on that same supply as was the QT electrical extension affraid

Higher KWT Heaters cannot be installed outside unless via an electrician AND on an appropriate circuit.

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Post by DaveB on Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:08 pm

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Sorry if I was suggesting that you did it yourself. Best Regards Dave

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Post by Admin on Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:27 pm

DaveB wrote:Mio

Sorry if I was suggesting that you did it yourself. Best Regards Dave

No Apology necessary Dave honest ...

I rewired the entire first floor so could technically run the cabling /new circuit board etc .... then have them affirmed as safe by my electrician before connecting the cables as I have done previously...

The NEW Building regs are Prohibitively Restrictive but were put in place to prevent `Fires` due to incorrect wiring /overloading etc.

I will run a separate circuit and RCD outside eventually ... but for now all the heaters have to run back to the house Sweetie.

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Post by DaveB on Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:46 pm

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If you ever do get around to fitting Solar panels. I understand that all other electrical work is checked out and brought up to recent standards. Hence the new distribution board. So I would imagine the fiiting of seperate RCD for outside would be done then.Not sure at what the cost would be. Best Regards Dave

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Post by Admin on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:02 pm

DaveB wrote:Mio

If you ever do get around to fitting Solar panels. I understand that all other electrical work is checked out and brought up to recent standards. Hence the new distribution board. So I would imagine the fiiting of seperate RCD for outside would be done then.Not sure at what the cost would be. Best Regards Dave

Some have fitted Solar Panels here Dave but 3 different companies have assured me that if I go ahead there is simply not enough roofspace to supply enough KWT so it would not pay to do so YET until someone invents a `Micro Solar Panel` Laughing

I have an Electrician Friend who would be willing to tackle the entire Upgrade in affordable increments ... Consumer Unit first Very Happy

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