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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:49 am

Pooled Rain on the WLP cover Rolling Eyes



Koi Vat temps dropped a little to 18.1C.

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Post by Admin on Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:31 pm

Torrential Rain forecast again today Rolling Eyes I`m off to test the KH Exclamation

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by Admin on Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:00 pm

Koi still @ 18.1C with ambient air 14.8C Very Happy

What great Temps for November Folks Very Happy twas the warmest October for yrs. Very Happy

I have set up a drip of a trickle in which has been running for 36 hours and added approx 100 gallons ... If I can maintain it at that rate whilst siphoning excess out ... I will keep it going for the force able...providing it isn`t going to cost a small fortune to heat ... affraid

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by DaveB on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:47 pm

Mio what is the temp of the water going just to see if it has any cooling effect or not.

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Post by Admin on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:55 pm

DaveB wrote:Mio what is the temp of the water going just to see if it has any cooling effect or not.

Not too bad atm Dave as Supply Temps are 17.2C and trickling in @ 30 litres-ish per hour.

Not sure how low the supply temps drop to overnight though.

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by DaveB on Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:48 am

never no it might be neglagble but would be intersting to know especially during the winter, might be sufficient to stop the pond from freezing over if not heated but doubt it somehow.

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Post by Admin on Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:44 am

DaveB wrote:never no it might be neglagble but would be intersting to know especially during the winter, might be sufficient to stop the pond from freezing over if not heated but doubt it somehow.

I had to fashion a type of HX out of a reel of Garden Hose and heat it to trickle in overnight in a bid to maintain 4C prior to bringing the Koi Indoors the Winter before last Dave ... they were heated outside last Winter or Temps would have hit Zero affraid

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by DaveB on Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:48 am

Mio I remember doing the same thing my self after discussing this with you last winter when I was running the RO in an attempt to increase the temp of incoming water as the higher the temp the more RO water produced. Worked at treat with 50 meters of garden hose and a 300w heater

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Post by Admin on Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:29 am

DaveB wrote:Mio I remember doing the same thing my self after discussing this with you last winter when I was running the RO in an attempt to increase the temp of incoming water as the higher the temp the more RO water produced. Worked at treat with 50 meters of garden hose and a 300w heater

I can`t find the Pics atm Dave (did i send these to you ?)

This was the Temp of the Water exiting the `Trickling in` hose Very Happy

Not my Genius I`m afraid No twas DaveJ who gave me the idea at the time Very Happy

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by Admin on Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:27 pm

Temps have Plummeted here in the `Welsh` Tundra Shocked

Ambient Air 7.1C Twisted Evil Koi down to 17.1C ...

I managed to find the old pics of the `HX` of coils I previously used to maintain 4C Temp with during 08 ...



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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by Admin on Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:47 pm

WLP Temps have dropped to 12.1C no doubt because of the copious `cold` Air now being pumped in there Arrow



Koi are still @ 18.1C and ravenous as usual Very Happy

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by Admin on Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:20 am

I`ve begun reducing the temp on the Koi Show Vat now which is currently @ 16.9C ...

What are your Temps now Guys ... We are getting close to freezing morning and night Temps here atm.

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by DaveB on Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:34 am

I have set the thermosat at 14 deg and will leave it there and see if it holds. The boiler is on for a maximum of 2 hours( timer) at a cost o just over £1.00 per day.I will leave this until the new year and then give them a couple of months winter. Minimum temp 7 deg C. Thats the plan anyway

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Post by Admin on Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:51 am

DaveB wrote:I have set the thermosat at 14 deg and will leave it there and see if it holds. The boiler is on for a maximum of 2 hours( timer) at a cost o just over £1.00 per day.I will leave this until the new year and then give them a couple of months winter. Minimum temp 7 deg C. Thats the plan anyway

Having never used an `Elecro` Heater before over winter I don`t know if it will run lower than 10C because a warning light is triggered at that temp Rolling Eyes BUT if I can I will allow them Jan Feb at 4C and Torpid ... otherwise mine will keep looking for phood Laughing If I winter them above torpid temps and waste precious energy.

I will read the electric meter @ bedtime and then again in the morning to see how many units have been consumed when everything but the Ponds are switched off...

Is your pond insulated Dave ?

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by DaveB on Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:53 am

Sorry guys miscalculated above. Boiler runs at a cost of £73p per hour so cost for a max of 2 hours per day is nearer to £1.50 per day. The other limiting factor will be the combined house and pond of 10 cubic meters of gas per day which is aproximately 110 kwhours at cost of £122 per month= £366 for the next quaer. Not too bad. If the consumption gets above 10 cubic meters combined. I will lower the thermostat on the pond, but not below 7 degs C. Lets see how it goes

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:48 am

The Show Vat Temps are dipping slowly and are @ 16.1C ...

WLP now unheated is @ 14.1C ...

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Post by DaveB on Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:59 am

Mio Would it be possible to create a chart to publish on this web site where say some of the members can post there monthly temperatures throughout say a 12 month period, so we can see at a glance what the differences are. Hope I am not giving you too much work to do

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:56 am

DaveB wrote:Mio Would it be possible to create a chart to publish on this web site where say some of the members can post there monthly temperatures throughout say a 12 month period, so we can see at a glance what the differences are. Hope I am not giving you too much work to do

A tad out of my technologically challenged league that Dave Laughing But I will ask F-Born if he can do it OR if any of the Members know how to post said chart ... feel free to go ahead post one Smile

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by DaveB on Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:25 am

I am afraid its out of my league too

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:04 pm

Having read the electricity Meter at bedtime and again this morning 115 units were consumed overnight !

Mild here in the Welsh Tundra today BUT very very WET Rolling Eyes

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by Admin on Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:13 pm

Well the WLP Goldies has dipped to 13.9C with the pond being North facing an all Rolling Eyes

I just baled 3 inches of rain off the cover Twisted Evil

The Koi Babes Show Vat temps however have risen to 17.2C Very Happy

Hope temps have improved for you guys too and the Koi Babes avoid a prolonged Winter Very Happy

Mine are still ravenously hungry !!!!!!!

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Post by DaveB on Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:53 pm

Admin wrote:Having read the electricity Meter at bedtime and again this morning 115 units were consumed overnight !

Mild here in the Welsh Tundra today BUT very very WET Rolling Eyes
MioAssuming units mean kwhrs. That is a phenominal amount, which will cost you in the region of £11. per night perhaps if you buy yourself a plug in meter if you haven,t alreaqdy got one and perhaps we can see where its all going. just an example a 3kw heater on overnight 8 hours continously will take only 24 kwh a 6 kw heater 48kw. If you haven,t got a meter give us a list of whatt you are using and see if all is ok. Another example 115kwh over 8 hours means you are consuming an average of over 14kw at any one time. Seems way too high even if you have a 6 kw heater + 3 or 4 pumps +airpumps, UV,etc,etc

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Post by Admin on Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:00 pm

Elaborate Please Dave ?

What `Plug in Meter` can you post a link to such Sweetie.

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Re: Pond Temps?

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Re: Pond Temps?

Post by Admin on Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:28 pm


Thank You Sweetie Very Happy

If I don`t win the `Owl` Energy testing Monitor ?

How about this one ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190584655626?
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The opening Meter reading was 877134 @ bedtime and was 877249 at breakfast...

It now reads 878516-877134 original reading = 1382 affraid OR am I reading it incorrectly affraid

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