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Post by DaveB on Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:52 am

I was invited to a friends house where he was having several koi treated for wounds which would not heal. I decided I would try and help and take along my microscope. I am very pleased( but not for my friend) to say that I found costia for the very first time and boy did he have them. I would like to thank you for sending me the video clips of these little critters which made them easy to identify them once I had seen them.
What has me confused is the dead or sleeping body flukes ( about 30 or so on one scrape)All were perfectly formed and clearly babies inside but were not moving at all. perhaps the zinc in the water is making them sleepy. I think if they were dead tehy would not be so clear and perhaps some with only hooks left. Interestingly he has not treated his pond for flukes this year but has used both PP and M&F but over a month ago. Any Ideas? Best REgards Dave

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Post by Admin on Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:11 am

My guess would be the Anaesthesia Dave ...

Some parasites are more debilitated by it than others ... hence the sleepy Skin Flukes ... Wink

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Post by Admin on Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:45 am

If memory serves correctly .. I read when researching costia an Article comment which stated the MS222 dose used to harvest costia was 1ml per ml equivalent ....

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Post by DaveB on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:50 pm

Of course that would explain it. I am thinking of going back tomorrow to have another look and will check several koi without anaesthesia.
Now I know what I am looking for with costia

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Post by Admin on Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:33 pm

When scraping for Costia ... bony areas such as Fins the Parasite can anchor their hook into are worth sampling, and/or any obvious reddened/heavily mucous`d areas Dave.

MG&F thrice 5 days apart would be my advice Very Happy then tackle any remaining Flukes ...

http://www.fishhelpline.co.uk/health/costia.html

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Post by DaveB on Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:32 pm

Cheers Mio
Thanks for the tips. Thats what I did the last time and picked the worst koi. I didn't really have to look very hard. They were very easy to spot. I wonder what effect the PP would have on the costia & flukes. perhpas the costia will be reduced in numbers and will be hard to find next time. I too woulld go for the M&F. However he is also taking advice from someone else, Who uses PP at different strenths and dips for just about everything . It will be interesting to see how things develope.I will keep you informed. Just glad its not my pond. However he is a dear friend so will try my best to help him. Best Regards Dave

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Post by Admin on Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:17 am

Doc Johnson, among others have had some success with a hair raising 3ppm PP treatments for costia Dave ... but I prefer MG@F Very Happy

http://www.koivet.com/a_potassium_permanganate_koi_goldfish_basics.html

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Post by DaveB on Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:43 pm

Mio Thanks for the link which made interesting reading. I notice Dr Johnson is also using pp for Flukes. It may be a solution as my friend has both costia. years ago I used to use pp dips for all the koi then immediately pp the pond. However this practice seems to have gone out of vogue.More recently M& F is favoured.
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Post by Admin on Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:45 am

Any News Sweetie ?

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Re: Costia & sleeping Flukes

Post by DaveB on Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:25 pm

No. I went around with scope, however he is satisfied that his koi are very much improved and his other friend will be around on sunday to review the situation. I have therefore left the matter in his hands. Somehow I don,t think I have heard the last of this but hope I am wrong. Best Regards Dave

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