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Post by DaveB on Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:42 am

I have which goes up to 3ppm so should be within the scale ie 10ppm Chloramine T 2.5ppm available Chlorine. Now that works out much less

ie 200 grams instead of 800 grams. Thanks again Best REgards Dave

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Post by Admin on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:35 am

Dave you could dilute the combined chlorine test sample by double/triple etc in a bid to determine greater accuracy .. as with all test kits Sweetie ....

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:34 pm

Good Call Mio.

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:52 pm

Day 10 Observation only.I have Decided due to the extensive treatments in the last 10 days and the koi is happily swimming around to leave well alone prior to CT treatment and give the koi a break.

Hope it turns out to be the right descision. I am continueing to raise K.H & G.H prior to treatment . Best Regards Dave

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Post by Admin on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:23 pm

DaveB wrote:Day 10 Observation only.I have Decided due to the extensive treatments in the last 10 days and the koi is happily swimming around to leave well alone prior to CT treatment and give the koi a break.

Hope it turns out to be the right descision. I am continueing to raise K.H & G.H prior to treatment . Best Regards Dave

Glad to hear She is swimming around Happily Dave ... Very Happy

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:04 am

Day 11

Prior to treatment with Chloramine T p.H 8.3 K.H=5dh, G.H=8dh ORP 335mv

1 hour after treatment with chloramine T Initial reaction koi swimming around quite active . No difference on ORP meter. Tested water for chlorine not regestering on test kit???All apeares OK

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Post by Admin on Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:18 am

Pleased to hear it Sweetie Very Happy

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:56 pm

Day 12 Update

Complted first dose of CT 10g per 100 g ( 22ppm) yesterday evening. Koi are looking very lively this morning.( due to knocking back the flukes?) Ammonia & nitrite readings zero. All has gone well on the first treatment.

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Post by Admin on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:09 pm

DaveB wrote:Day 12 Update

Complted first dose of CT 10g per 100 g ( 22ppm) yesterday evening. Koi are looking very lively this morning.( due to knocking back the flukes?) Ammonia & nitrite readings zero. All has gone well on the first treatment.

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:23 pm

Completed 2nd dose of CT yesterday. Koi not as active during treatment as after first treatment.

A number of chlorine tests were taken and when registered immediately after adding the tablet to the sample then no chlorine is visible however the longer you leave the vile the higher the chlorine content and I mean 6ppm and more if left for anh our or so . This would indicate to me that a very low level of chlorine is being released, possibly much less than 1ppm. However if allowed to stand it would gradually increase. This was the case even this morning 18 hours after adding the second dose of CT. My theory is that CT stays active for longer period than first suggested and could be better at healing wounds for longer periods than low doses of PP which are spent after 30 mins or so.

I am not suggesting that we do this on a regular basis but is very interesting indead.especially after I have given tha last dose later today. It will be interesting to see for how long the chlorine is being released. Best REgards Dave

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by Admin on Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:47 pm

How are they now Sweetie ?

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:44 pm

A little bit quieter than yesterday, Most are still interested when I through in a few pellets this morning. They perk up a bit in the afternoon just prior to next treatment. One or two of the new ones are stil flicking on occation. Also quite a bit of dolphining is going on just after the last treatment was put in. Perhaps they are jut trying to rid what is obviously iritating their gills??. As yet I see no evidence of any small wounds being cauterised.£rd and final dose is to be administerd in a few hours time. Hopefully this will make a big difference.

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:27 pm

Day 15

After a day of concerns yesterday, 3 or 4 koi were sitting on the bottom and not looking too happy.The chlorine test was still showing after 24 hours and a slight nirtite reading so the filters have taken a bit of a hit. This will not be affecting the koi due to salt in the system.

This morning 100% improvement with all koi happy swimming around at the surface. Chlorine still reading, 36 hours after last treatment so should still be doing something.Nitrite reading zero Lets hope we are now on the up

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by Admin on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:28 pm

You must feel relieved Dave .... Very Happy

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:17 pm

koi up and feeding and the sanke too, The first time since first administering antibiotics. I will leave her for a few more days as there is still some chlorine being released and then check her underneath to see how the healing is coming on. Duncan has suggested the possibilty of weekly lower dose CT treatments maybe necessary. in order to completely heal the wound. It is a Shame to subject the other koi to this treatment protocol. But thats the price to pay without hospital facilities. Best Regards Dave

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Post by Admin on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:32 pm

Without the Critter element prolonging and compounding Infection Dave ... She should heal quickly Sweetie .... Very Happy

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:32 pm

Day 17 update ( 4th day after CT treatment)







Looks like a lot of healing has teaken place. However there is an area just above the main wound( first picture) which has turned a bit red and feels a bit rough. Otherwise every thing is looking good.

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Post by Admin on Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:35 pm

The Wound looks so much healthier now Dave ... Well Done Sweetie Very Happy

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:04 pm

Mio Just had to have a look to see how she is coming olong ( Duncan wanted another pic) This is now 11 days after high dosage of CT. I dosed again 4 days ago with a much lower dose 2gms/100g. This is mainataining a slow release of chlorine throughout the treatment, Wait until you see the picture



We are definately on the up. Although its still looking a bit red but it is definately much less angry. The good news is. It has totally skinned over.

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Post by Admin on Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:47 pm

Excellent results Dave Very Happy

Healing is well under way Sweetie ... the wound looks so much healthier now ... you must be both pleased and relieved Very Happy

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:35 am

here are the latest photos. Healing has not gone as well as I would have liked but hopefully if I can maintain good water temperature at 14 degs and above throughout winter then healing will continue. The koi is very happy and hungary and not showing any outward signs of stress. I am reluctant to treat the pond with anything as there are no signs of parasites and feel any topical treatment would damage any new growth which on closer inspection is totally covering the would or appears to be. Your thoughts are always appreciated

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Post by Admin on Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:06 am

I would leave well alone also Sweetie and focus upon her complete recovery whilst the Koi Babe is Happily behaving normally .. without signs of obvious Infection .... Very Happy

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Re: Treating Fin Rot & and an Ulcer

Post by DaveB on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:52 pm

Thanks for that. Dave

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