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Post by alank on Fri May 18, 2012 2:14 am

Just ordered one of these as the Exact Micro 7 I currently have will not be able to do ammonia once they have run out of test strips. Looks like a good bit of kit and reads direct without the need for transition tables.

http://www.sensafe.com/eco-check/order.php

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Post by Admin on Fri May 18, 2012 4:03 am

alank wrote:Just ordered one of these as the Exact Micro 7 I currently have will not be able to do ammonia once they have run out of test strips. Looks like a good bit of kit and reads direct without the need for transition tables.

http://www.sensafe.com/eco-check/order.php

Andrew mentioned this Meter when I last spoke with him Alan Very Happy He was very Excited about it as well as some other new products Very Happy

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Post by alank on Fri May 18, 2012 4:12 am

I will keep you informed Mio

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Post by alank on Tue May 22, 2012 8:20 am

Meter arrived today and I have taken as many readings as I could in the allotted time. First plus for this new meter is it has a built in timer so if you forget to monitor your stop watch on the 8 minute tests, its no biggy as the reading is stored for when you switch on again. Also, no need to read charts to get the readings as it is all displayed in ppm on the digital readout.

Let me know your thoughts on the readings, (I knocked back the filters last week by inadvertently sending a LOT of water direct from the tap unfiltered into the filter so the chlorine has killed off a lot of bacteria on the KI and shower media.

Ammonia - 0.10ppm
N02 - 0.11PPM
N03 - 22.5
Alkalinity - 20.9
phosphate - High
PH - 6.81 (I have just added 2kg of KH buffer, i added 2 kg of GH buffer yesterday) PH has come down from 7.4.

CU - Low

I have forgotton how to use the drops for KH and GH but I know both are usually very low, ie 4 or less.

TH on the meter was 72

Apart from ammonia and nitrite, I have no idea what it all means.

I am looking to get KH and GH up to 80 by adding buffers.

Pond temp 19 deg c
Not able to test TDS as my meter has gone walkabout.

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Post by Admin on Tue May 22, 2012 8:34 am

Ammonia PPM needs to be converted via PH and Temp Sweetie .. Here Arrow http://mio-chichi.forumotion.co.uk/t113-ammonia-test-value-calculator

I would simply cease feeding temporarily then replace more water in a bid to reduce the Nitrite ...

The Ammonia Value would not concern me personally ... Nitrite possibly ?

To increase PH swiftly Alan add COPIOUSLY more `AIR` Wink

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Post by DaveB on Tue May 22, 2012 5:10 pm

Alank Can I ask you why you are adding G.H. Buffer. I went to great lenghts running RO to remove as much as I can. Also correct me if I am wrong Phosphate is a buffer so as Mio said with loads of air before adding anything will bring your p.H above 7.. Sorry if I have hyjact this thread.

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Post by alank on Tue May 22, 2012 9:26 pm

Hi Dave, my gh and kh are always low and I have been advised to get it up to about 80. This allows the filter to work better. I always buffer using bi carb but the gh and kh stay low. It's all a mystery to me but just following advice. I was advised to measure phosphate as I have started to get blanket weed inmy shower outlet. I have no idea if my reading is acceptable .

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Post by DaveB on Wed May 23, 2012 5:59 am

I too am plaged with phosphate in the tap. although it is only 1ppm I am sure that even with undetectable levels of nitrate, this can cause blanketweed and it is necessary to treat once a year with either cloverleaf Blankweed answer or kusuri ecopure gold. I understand both have low levels of zinc in them. One of the reasons I run RO was to remove all unwanted impurities including phosphate from the supply water. I also reduced GH, something to do with skin quality. However I have also been told that when G.H is reduced lower than K.H. then P.H is stable. But I don,t know why or even if this is true.

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Post by Admin on Wed May 23, 2012 6:39 am

Excess Phosphate if not from `Supply` Water Alan is usually a result of `FOOD` residue remaining in the Pond ... possibly the Sterlet Pellets Sweetie .. if not eaten straight away ....

The Japanese Breeders Plant up their Bakki Showers Very Happy which might take up the surplus ... Question

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Post by DaveB on Wed May 23, 2012 5:06 pm

I found when running enough RO, it was possible to reduce phosphate levels in the pond to undetectable levels. Although I probably did not feed as heavily as you Mio. After installing RO Idid a treatment for Blanketweed. and I did not get blanketweed for another 18months after that, which is when I stiopped using the RO. I am now trying to keep phosphate levels to a minimum by waterchanges only ( same as source water 1ppm) so far so good. However there is slight evidence that blanketweed is slowly returning.

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Post by Admin on Thu May 24, 2012 10:02 am

DaveB wrote:I found when running enough RO, it was possible to reduce phosphate levels in the pond to undetectable levels. Although I probably did not feed as heavily as you Mio. After installing RO Idid a treatment for Blanketweed. and I did not get blanketweed for another 18months after that, which is when I stiopped using the RO. I am now trying to keep phosphate levels to a minimum by waterchanges only ( same as source water 1ppm) so far so good. However there is slight evidence that blanketweed is slowly returning.

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Although `Algas` whether suspended (green/red) etc or (Blanketweed/String Algae type Species) have been known to `GROW` in `Distilled` Water even ... Growth was poor ..

Minerals Calcium/Magnesium ie GH along with Phosphate/Phosphorous will compound Aquatic Plant Growth significantly IMO .. and why you witnessed a decline in such whilst running RO Wink

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Post by DaveB on Thu May 24, 2012 4:51 pm

My opinion too, however difficult to prove, however when using such media as liquatha as a shower media , which increased G.H.and K.H Blanketweed was always an issue. What I found against theories that liquatha is purely calcium carbonate, it did however in my situation reduce the p.H swing as what it is claimed to do, unlike oyster shell which supposedly does not disolve unless slightly acidic conditions.The other downsiide of liquatha was it acted as an unwanted mechanical filter and required constant cleaning

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Post by alank on Thu May 24, 2012 5:02 pm

Admin wrote:Excess Phosphate if not from `Supply` Water Alan is usually a result of `FOOD` residue remaining in the Pond ... possibly the Sterlet Pellets Sweetie .. if not eaten straight away ....

The Japanese Breeders Plant up their Bakki Showers Very Happy which might take up the surplus ... Question

Thanks Mio, I doubt it is from food as there is never any food left in the pond, if its not snapped up straight away, it can be found in the 2 skimmers or in the sump where the RDF dumps all the waste from the pond.

Do you know what the Japanese breeders plant the bakki showers with? I always have high nitrate and have no way of getting rid of it as there are no plants in the water. I have looked at filters for supply water this morning, there is one specifically for nitrate. Any one use one? I will dig out my water analysis report to see what is in the supply water.

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Post by Admin on Thu May 24, 2012 8:35 pm

Here is a picture of them Planted up Alan Arrow

In one of Mike Snadens `MOMOTARO`Articles Arrow http://www.yumekoi.com/images/stories/pdfs/april_2003.pdf

Not sure what the Plant Species is though ...

I imagine they are `Marginal` shelf types like these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&clk_rvr_id=346149407472&item=130696765031#ht_500wt_1156 Very Happy

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