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Post by DaveB on Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:48 pm

If you were on a buying trip to japan or buying koi fro Mr Snaden.( expensive koi) Would you still overwinter koi or would you maintain temperatures above 14 degs C and during this period would you have a period of not feeding koi at these temperatures .Bearing in mind loosing one koi would cost a lot more than heating to higher temperatures. Your thoughts would be apprecieated

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DaveB wrote:If you were on a buying trip to japan or buying koi fro Mr Snaden.( expensive koi) Would you still overwinter koi or would you maintain temperatures above 14 degs C and during this period would you have a period of not feeding koi at these temperatures .Bearing in mind loosing one koi would cost a lot more than heating to higher temperatures. Your thoughts would be apprecieated


Difficult call Dave because If Money were no object Very Happy a Pond in the Foyer of my `Dream House`would be my ideal. Very Happy

And yes I would then buy Koi direct from Japan.

Heating them all year around is debatable due to the inability of Females to absorb eggs at higher temps unless starved ... and i feel Fasting them at higher temps would be a tad cruel to any Males present amongst the stock.

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Post by DaveB on Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:17 am

Yes Starving them in winter is debateble as is heating. However whilst I heated for many years and only stopped feeding for a maximum of a month. I did not have any problems with females and eggs. However my koi never spawned either. Wether or not this is a good thing or a bad thing I don,t know. I would say the majority of koi keepers who have expensive fish rightly or wrongly don,t overwinter with temps less than 14 degC . However a few are trying 12 degs C of late. They nearly all give them a period of fasting.However I would also say the majority of these ( If in the show circles) koi will be females.Sorry if I am making too many sweeping statements. Just what I have read, heard and seen over the years

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Post by Admin on Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:44 am

Mine have never spawned either Dave ... and have only been heated over winter once which was last Winter....

The previous Winter I shortened and will continue to do so or they will lose all they gain if I don`t.

I think much depends upon variable factors .. ie how well fed they have been during the growing season etc ....

Expensive Koi are grown on very quickly with heat so would need a period of fasting to prevent egg retention if they have not spawned ....

The Female I lost during Summer through the Tumour had never spawned and was heated over winter last year.




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Post by DaveB on Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:50 am

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DaveB wrote:If you were on a buying trip to japan or buying koi fro Mr Snaden.( expensive koi) Would you still overwinter koi or would you maintain temperatures above 14 degs C and during this period would you have a period of not feeding koi at these temperatures .Bearing in mind loosing one koi would cost a lot more than heating to higher temperatures. Your thoughts would be apprecieated


Difficult call Dave because If Money were no object Very Happy a Pond in the Foyer of my `Dream House`would be my ideal. Very Happy

And yes I would then buy Koi direct from Japan.

Heating them all year around is debatable due to the inability of Females to absorb eggs at higher temps unless starved ... and i feel Fasting them at higher temps would be a tad cruel to any Males present amongst the stock.
Mio Nice idea. I too have thought about an i door pond( or extending the consevatory over part of the pond. UNfortuanely my wife hates the idea.

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Post by Admin on Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:05 am

There is a `Sky-lit` Koi Pond in the lounge of this House Dave Arrow

http://b3-bond.com/great-and-luxury-camelot-house-in-centennial-park-sidney/

When mine were indoors it was great fun greeting them every morning and at lights out Very Happy

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Post by DaveB on Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:13 am

Admins wrote:There is a `Sky-lit` Koi Pond in the lounge of this House Dave Arrow

http://b3-bond.com/great-and-luxury-camelot-house-in-centennial-park-sidney/

When mine were indoors it was great fun greeting them every morning and at lights out Very Happy

The Kitchen was a tad cramped though consequently Laughing

Wow fantastic. I was aquainted with the chairlady of the BBS Andria and was lucky enought to be invited to her house a few years ago. They build an extention on their house with an indoor koi pond. with a large viewing window which faced into the living room. Very impressive. You could throw koi pellets over your shoulder whilst watching T.V. and feed the koi at the same time.

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Post by Admin on Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:22 am

The greatest benefit of keeping them indoors for me was `FREE` Heating Dave Very Happy

The Koi remained at room Temperatures throughout Very Happy and water changes were added at the correct temp Very Happy

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Post by DaveB on Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:38 pm

Wow The koi pond has the best of both worlds where you can enjoy them indoors on those cold days in Vancover and outdoors in the summer when things warm up a bit. Truely fantastic

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Post by Admin on Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:24 pm

I thought you Guys would like that pic Dave ....

A Dream Home indeed Very Happy

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