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Post by Admin on Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:04 pm

I will kick start the threads with one of the most controversial Topics which is that of the dreaded "Green Water" (love-it-or-hate-it) and I reside firmly in the latter camp Twisted Evil

I have experienced horrendous problems with both the above along with it`s sister String Algae aka Blanketweed Twisted Evil

What are your experiences of either ? by all means share these please Very Happy

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Post by AL on Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:25 am

I am currently in the grips of new pond syndrome which has led me from clear water to green water and I am now in the float up algea stage which again has turned the pond a little green but the uv is keeping it mostly at bay atm Sad
so until it matures a little more I will have to wait I can still see the fishes to keep tabs on them but its just not where it needs to be yet.

We over here in oz get a string algea like the one you get there but not quite so bad. Laughing
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Post by Admin on Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:38 am

What is the PH doing now Al ?

Is it swinging much day to night etc ?

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Post by AL on Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:34 pm

Admin wrote:What is the PH doing now Al ?

Is it swinging much day to night etc ?

It was swinging quite a lot as you know but now that i buffered it more the swings arent so dramatic .
but the waters not so green either so a little of both is helping I think Laughing
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Post by Admin on Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:15 pm

My Vat had recently begun to "Green-Up" Al Twisted Evil hiking the PH up tp 8.4 at a KH of 18ppm Twisted Evil

For a corresponding KH value minus the Phyta my PH was a perfect 7 and stable ....

At it`s peak in the past via either or both maladies PH hiked to 10.5 Shocked

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Post by pondy on Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:59 pm

Well mine tends to be green free most of the year as i change my 30watt Uv religeously every 6 months.
and for my blanket weed when it shows its face i have been using the product "cloverleaf" on it. however im a string believe that the blanket weed (as it is a plant) builds up a slight resistance to regular used product so will be changing what i use this year probably to eco gold just so the weed doesnt get used to any one product and learns to battle against it.
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Post by Admin on Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:10 pm

pondy wrote:Well mine tends to be green free most of the year as i change my 30watt Uv religeously every 6 months.
and for my blanket weed when it shows its face i have been using the product "cloverleaf" on it. however im a string believe that the blanket weed (as it is a plant) builds up a slight resistance to regular used product so will be changing what i use this year probably to eco gold just so the weed doesnt get used to any one product and learns to battle against it.


I agree Lau .... Very Happy

Rotating treatment is a more effective means of eradicating all manner of living Organisms ... and a method now employed in Medicine etc to name only one ..

It took a double application of CBA to tackle my last "String Algae" Crop Razz and I have 30 watts of UV on 950 gallons Wink

Take-No-Prisoners is my approach across the board ..

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Post by pondy on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:11 pm

the other worry i have would be the continued use of Cloverleaf and its effect on the "Coy" Razz
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Post by AL on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:15 pm

Lets see if this works

Green water gone now

Ill try again soon
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Post by Admin on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:18 pm

pondy wrote:the other worry i have would be the continued use of Cloverleaf and its effect on the "Coy" Razz

Many of the treatments have the self same ingredients Lau sadly and they arne`t used often enough I believe to impact the Coy Laughing In fact one member chose to measure "Zinc" Values 24 hrs after a CBA application and these were barely traceable ... The Weed had "Uptaken" it all .....

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Post by Admin on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:22 pm

AL wrote:Lets see if this works

Green water gone now

Ill try again soon


Nope !

Click the pic Sweetie ... then click the [IMG] code link and ensure it flashes "yellow" saying copied before cntrl and V -ing it into a post ....


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Post by pondy on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:25 pm

ok but how could you confirm that it was the weed that Absorbed the Zinc and not the Koi? you couldnt with out taking blood samples and that wher my concern is over a period of time the effect of zinc in the bloodlines of my babies....

just my thinkings anyway (and what do i know) Wink
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Post by AL on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:43 pm

here we go again

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Post by AL on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:45 pm

I am Leo hear me ROAR Very Happy
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Post by Admin on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:59 pm

AL wrote:I am Leo hear me ROAR Very Happy

PHANTASTIC Sweetie .... Very Happy

How many watts Al ?

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Post by AL on Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:07 pm

110 watt Mio

Placed it inline before my shower as it is more suited to the flow rate there Very Happy

I went from a bottom I hadnt seen in a month to one i could see in 2 days
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Post by Admin on Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:15 pm

pondy wrote:ok but how could you confirm that it was the weed that Absorbed the Zinc and not the Koi? you couldnt with out taking blood samples and that wher my concern is over a period of time the effect of zinc in the bloodlines of my babies....

just my thinkings anyway (and what do i know) Wink



Salt works very well (allegedly) and is Pond Balance main active ingredient ....

Zinc Oxide is applied as an Aquatic Algacide safely all over Europe Lau and to quote Cloverleaf`s John
There is no Zinc in Blanket Answer, but there is some Zinc Oxide.

Zinc Oxide is not poisonous to Koi, and is a dietry supplement which is
added to; Weetabix, Hikari and other Koi foods, dog food, poultry feed,
cold lozenges and the feed of food fish in America. I checked all this,
and it's true.

Zinc Oxide is not the active ingredient that kills algae. The "algae killer" is an enzyme which messes up the structure of a molecule called Polysaccharide which forms the cell walls of algae. This leaves the algae cell full of holes so it leaks and dies.

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/List_AquireAll.jsp?Rec_Id=PC35158&Taxa_Group=Fish


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Post by Admin on Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:44 am

AL wrote:110 watt Mio

Placed it inline before my shower as it is more suited to the flow rate there Very Happy

I went from a bottom I hadnt seen in a month to one i could see in 2 days


As did mine Sweetie Very Happy and the PH then maxed to 7.8 ... It would have hiked even higher during the day had the Vat not been salted @ just over .2% in a bid to offset a NPS Nitrite Spike Twisted Evil


Alga`s whether suspended Micro or Macro (plant variety) attract a whole host of predators which whilst providing a wealth of "nutritious" supplements to the Koi diet also impact NEGATIVELY upon B.O.D./C.O.D. etc contributing to overall decline in water quality across the board ..... Twisted Evil

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