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Post by alank on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:41 pm

I am an engineer and have been self employed for 22 years. Recently, work has dropped off dramatically as my Blue Chip clients reel in their expenditure. I work loosely in Health and Sfety, its amazing how this area gets the cut backs first.

Anyway, I thought I would use my other areas of expertise to start a new business building Koi ponds. If I could do 2 or 3 a year, I am sure this would fill out the slack times. I have built 3 pond over the years, I am also very experienced in working with concrete, blocks, stone, plumbing and electrics. Having worked on listed buildings and lots of landscaping over the years, I know that its the detail that matters when building anything.

I have my own 180 degree digger, cement mixer and every other gadget you can imagine to carry out this sort of work. I appreciate most people build their own ponds but if anyone needs advice or is interested in chatting about pond builds, I am here to advise and help.

I will add a link to my Facebook page for Koi Pond Builder soon but I have only just started it and in the process of uploading photo's etc.

Moi, if this is considered to be spam, please feel free to delete it.
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Post by Admin on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:57 pm

Feel free to add your link Alan ...

We are very `link` friendly here Very Happy I link to other Koi Boards all the time ... It`s not a competition to my mind ... we all genuinely give of our time freely to be able to help Very Happy

On the subject of Pond Builds my prejudice leans toward `Atori Onishi Streamflow` systems due to the cost effective manner in which purging of detritus is carried out ... I would want to incorporate `under-floor` heating in such myself though IF funds permitted.

http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?59787-Streamflow-Koi-Pond/page2

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Post by alank on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:34 pm

I have seen some of hose pond builds, all interesting stuff. On the exercise front, mine spend a lot of time swimming at the window which has a strong current across it due to the strong vortex generated by the 18000 l/h pump which is currently returning 15cm below the surface of the water. There are occasions when a shoal gathers in front of this return and swim hard into the current. There are also 3 spots where they can just be still.

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Post by Admin on Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:03 pm

I Like `Shotcrete`and Gunite finishes too which is much more popular across the pond than here in the UK ....

I don`t know how it would compare insulation wise with block built systems though.

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Post by alank on Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:11 pm

15 mm of insulation is enough for the temps we run at. I install 25 mm though on above ground systems.

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:20 am

alank wrote:15 mm of insulation is enough for the temps we run at. I install 25 mm though on above ground systems.

Do you do the fiber-glassing on your pond builds also Alan ?

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:08 am

No, I priced it up for 34 sq m but could not compete with the professionals. Basically, the price for me to buy the materials was just over 75% of what it cost to have it done professionally, including the materials. It took them 1 1/2 days for 2 men to complete.

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:07 am

I have uploaded a few video's taken today just to see what happens with the Facebook page.

If you get time could you please try the link for me.

http://www.facebook.com/video/?id=100002964517513

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:13 am

alank wrote:I have uploaded a few video's taken today just to see what happens with the Facebook page.

If you get time could you please try the link for me.

http://www.facebook.com/video/?id=100002964517513

The link works Alan but requests members log in before anyone can view the page.

If the videos are on utube or photobucket you can include them here to Sweetie.. Very Happy


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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:17 am

Thanks Mio, I was trying to avoid You tube at the moment due to the adverts that come with it. You should be able to see the vids as they are public. I will investigate further.

I didn't realise you could use photobucket, I will give that a try. Thanks again.

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:32 am

alank wrote:Thanks Mio, I was trying to avoid You tube at the moment due to the adverts that come with it. You should be able to see the vids as they are public. I will investigate further.

I didn't realise you could use photobucket, I will give that a try. Thanks again.

If you download them from Photobucket Alan click the `embed` code Sweetie.

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:37 am

Will do, I have uploaded 3 but one failed. When I click play on PB, there is a lot of buffering going on...

Another problem is the amount of double typing I will have to do.

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alank wrote:

To `embed` use HTML code Alan Wink

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:51 am

The problem with PB is it gives anyone who views the link access to everything else in the album which is not what I want to do.

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:56 am

The vids need to be viewed in order but they are not in order in PB so I dont think its an option at this stage.

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:10 am

YUK !

Great clips and your Pond water is looking good Alan Very Happy

Is the RDF flushed with Supply or Pond Water ?

If pond water then scoping a sample of that silt/fines into a welled slide might be a good idea Very Happy

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:22 am

The RDF is flushed with pond water taken from the clean side of the drum. The contents of the bucket were flushed from the dirty side over 19 hours yesterday. The water is not that clear, or not as clear as I would like it as I cannot get all the fines to sink. Have a look in this clip.

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:27 am

What is a welled slide?

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:38 am

alank wrote:The RDF is flushed with pond water taken from the clean side of the drum. The contents of the bucket were flushed from the dirty side over 19 hours yesterday. The water is not that clear, or not as clear as I would like it as I cannot get all the fines to sink. Have a look in this clip.

I wouldn`t call the visible debris in the clip fines Alan ... the pieces look too big to me ...

I wonder are the currents keeping the fines in suspension?

Are you still feeding 2% bw per day at 14C ? if so it might be worth cutting back gradually now Sweetie ... in particular if pellets are not being eaten?

Cloudy water can be symptomatic of heretotrophic bacterial blooms due to particulate floating around in the water ..

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:45 am

I nearly got rid of the particles floating around but tried a different setup with the water flows last night. This morning there were two settlement areas which were made mobile when I switched the additional pumps back on.

The cloudiness was starting to disappear, re my comment about the top layer of water being a lot clearer but its all clouded up again in the bottom layers.

The currents and filtering 51000 l/h is the only combination that comes anywhere near clearing the water. with no current, it just sits in suspension.

The koi are on Hikari Staple at the moment so I will start cutting down although they do eat everything that I throw in in less than 5 minutes.

Is there any way of getting rid of the blooms?

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:05 am

I googled and found this easy to understand explanation of heretotrophic bacterial blooms.
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/246850-bacterial-blooms-explained/

I reinstated one of my filters a couple of days ago which should take care of all ammonia and once it settles down, it should get the nitrite down again from 0.4. Lots of O2 in the pond, I will not feed tomorrow to see what happens.

All fascinating stuff, thanks for the heads up Mio.

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alank wrote:I googled and found this easy to understand explanation of heretotrophic bacterial blooms.
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/246850-bacterial-blooms-explained/

I reinstated one of my filters a couple of days ago which should take care of all ammonia and once it settles down, it should get the nitrite down again from 0.4. Lots of O2 in the pond, I will not feed tomorrow to see what happens.

All fascinating stuff, thanks for the heads up Mio.

Oops sorry Embarassed forgot to reply to the `welled slides` query Arrow these have either a depression in the glass itself or metallic square welded on ... I buy these Arrow http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330462616788?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_t
rksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_3790wt_1185

They prevent crushing of microorganisms/gill filaments etc leaving them intact in a pool of water which can be viewed for longer.

Do you run a UV Alan ? if so you could slow down the flow which might assist with clearing the water...

The best results I have achieved in relation to clearing cloudiness was when I incorporated an under water UV into my 4 ft Aquarium ... the water looked ozonated ....

Good link Sweetie ... I have many similar Very Happy

What size pellets are you feeding ? the grinding of large pellets I have found creates worse fines.

Hikari Gold constantly coated my white QT sides in a brown dust similar to your RDF residue Alan.

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Post by alank on Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:50 am

Now I am being a bit more scientific about what goes in and what comes out, I will try different foods to see what effect they have on water quality.

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